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‘Persuade Me’ with Elie Mystal

Monday July 15 2024 • 4:21am - 4:21am ET

Is your worldview set in stone, or are you open to different perspectives?

Elie Mystal, managing editor of Above the Law and More Perfect legal editor, tries to convince a guest, a judge, an audience — pretty much anyone with ears — to go against the conventional wisdom in this new live podcast pilot from WNYC Studios.

The first issue we’ll tackle: hate crimes. Slate writer Mark Joseph Stern will argue that we need laws against them, that our criminal justice system depends on it, and that it’s a moral imperative to punish hate. But is there another way to punish hate without prosecuting what’s in a person’s heart?

Elie says yes. A crime is a crime is a crime.

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